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In 2006, Apple migrated all their desktop and notebook computers from the Apple/IBM/Motorola CPUs known as PowerPC (PPC) to Intel CPUs.
PowerMac G5 were replaced by Mac Pro
Mac Mini G4 was replaced by Mac Mini Intel
iMac G5 was replaced by iMac Intel
iBook G4 was replaced by MacBook
eMac was replaced by iMac Intel Educational
Powerbook G4 was replaced by MacBook Pro
See also the timeline at the end of the tip.
Older software on newer machines is a frequent question on this board, which has been covered in the User Tips section before. To make it more current, the following information has been updated.
When we refer to Mac OS 9 below, we are referring to the operating system that was last prebundled on Macs in early 2006 (on PowerPC G5 and G4 Macs only), and was last bootable on 2003 Macs. We are not referring to Mac OS X 10.9, which came out in 2013. That's an entirely different beast.
Classic is an environment within Mac OS X on PowerPC (PPC) Macs running 10.4.11 and earlier that allows most Mac OS 9 applications to run. This is not to be confused with 'booting into Mac OS 9.' Mac OS 9 booting supports all Mac OS 9 compatible applications and drivers, where Classic does not. See questions 7 and 9 for more info.
Rosetta is a background application that integrates most PowerPC Mac OS X applications in an Intel CPU Mac running Mac OS X in such a way that both Intel Mac OS X applications and PowerPC Mac OS X applications can share the same machine. Rosetta is not to be confused with Rosetta Stone, the third party language translation and teaching software of nearly the same name.
Snow Leopard offers 64 bit computing for some applications and the operating system itself. This can affect which peripherals and applications will run. Rosetta is not available on Mac OS X 10.7 or higher.
The limitations of both are outlined below:
1. Can Snow Leopard run software written for PowerPC Macs?
Yes, if it was written for Mac OS X and does not require contextual menu plugins, PowerPC plugins, or PowerPC drivers. Rosetta is an optional install on the DVD for Snow Leopard, and is offered when PowerPC software is run for the first time on a Snow Leopard installed Mac if it wasn't installed initially.
Click on Applications that are installed once and select Get info in the File menu to checkoff Rosetta, if you believe it might work better in Rosetta, than Intel native mode.
Sometmies when 10.6 is installed, Rosetta, the application that allows PowerPC programs to run will not automatically install. In those situations, you can manually install Rosetta from the 10.6 installer disc. The following quote explains how to install it manually:
Insert the Mac OS 10.6 installation DVD When the DVD is mounted, select 'Optional Installs' then 'Optional Installs.mpkg'
Follow the onscreen instructions for agreeing to the software license and selecting the hard drive for installation.
In the 'Installation Type' step, select the box next to Rosetta from the list of applications presented. Continue the installation process.
After successful installation, a confirmation message will appear.
These instructions appeared on http://forums.printable.com/showthread.php?t=1110 .
Note:
- If you have Rosetta applications installed during an upgrade install of 10.4 or 10.5, Snow Leopard installer will automatically include Rosetta in its installation.
Macs that shipped new after July 20, 2011 with a hardware change compared to their model counterparts can't run Snow Leopard natively, thus are stuck not being able to run PowerPC softawre without extra help from third parties.
2. Can Lion (10.7), Mountain Lion (10.8), or Mavericks (10.9) run software written for PowerPC Macs?
Normally not. Limited success has been done with virtualized software running Snow Leopard Server. To determine if this might be necessary before upgrading, the System Profiler application lets you quickly determine if you have PowerPC (PPC) applications (click on image to enlarge):
Note the triangle to the left of Software has to be pointed down for the Applications to become visible. Note the right hand side of the the Applications listing when selected says if you have PowerPC, Classic, Intel, or Universal. PowerPC & Classic indicate PowerPC only. Classic indicates it only runs on a PowerPC with Mac OS 9 running in the Classic environment or booting into Mac OS 9.
3. Can Snow Leopard run on Lion prebundled Macs?
In some rare cases, such as has been documented in this link:
and the bottom of this link:
To guarantee such the compatibility of Rosetta, get a used or refurbished Mac that was released prior to July 20, 2011, with the original installer discs. If it is older than March 29, 2010, and an Intel chip with 1 GB of RAM you can use the most recent Snow Leopard retail installer to install Snow Leopard, instead of trying to find the harder to get prebundled discs, if the Mac doesn't come with prebundled discs.
4. Can Intel Macs run PowerPC software?
Yes, if Rosetta is installed. It is preinstalled in 10.4.4 through 10.5.8.
Snow Leopard installation is described in question 1.
5. Can Intel Macs run Classic?
No.
6. Can Snow Leopard run Classic?
No.
7. Can PowerPC Macs run Snow Leopard?
No. If buying an Intel Mac to run Snow Leopard or higher and you have a PowerPC Mac with data you want to migrate, read this tip on migrating in addition to the info you are reading here.
8. Can Leopard run Classic?
No. However, PowerPC Macs with a Firewire external bootable hard drive running 10.4.11 or earlier, or a second partition with 10.4.11 or earlier can have the Classic environment installed on them. A second internal hard drive with 10.4.11 or earlier is yet a third way to approach this problem. Classic is not the same as booting into Mac OS 9. Like Rosetta, it has limitation for running older plugins and drivers. Partitioning is described here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1600
9. Are there Macs that can run Leopard and boot into Mac OS 9?
Yes, see this user tip:
10. How do you install Mac OS 9 on a Mac released post-July 2002, with a PowerPC chip?
These directions help both in enabling Classic, and booting into Mac OS 9 with the Macs that support it (if they have Mac OS X 10.4.11 or earlier installed, or no operating installed on a partition or external Firewire hard drive). Follow the restore directions with the discs prebundled with that Mac here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1561
Unless your Mac is prebundled with 9.2.0 or earlier, there is no retail Mac OS 9 installer disc that will install Mac OS 9 on your machine. This article tells you what is prebundled with which Mac:
July 2002 and earlier Macs come with their unique Mac model specific 9 installer disc if they came with 9.2.1 or 9.2.2.
11. How do I boot into Mac OS 9?
Go to Apple menu - System Preferences - Startup Disk and select the Mac OS 9 System Folder. This is only available to Macs made pre-2003, except the pre-Firewire 800 PowerMac G4 MDD and G3 iBooks. To tell if your PowerMac G4 can boot into 9, look at the back panel, and see if there is a Firewire 800 port, such as is shown on this image:
If there is none, then you have a machine capable of booting into 9.
Also if Mac OS X was initially installed on the machine without Mac OS 9, you may have to erase the Mac, and install Mac OS 9 drivers to enable Mac OS 9 booting when you install Mac OS 9 on it, by following these directions:
12. How do I boot into Mac OS X?
If it is on the same partition as Mac OS 9, hold the 'X' key upon boot. Otherwise use a 9.1 or later Startup Control Panel from Apple menu - Control Panels folder to select the Mac OS X folder if it is installed. This article explains how to get it on earlier Mac OS 9 installs:
13. How do I run Classic?
As long as you have 10.4.11 or earlier on a PowerPC Mac, you can do the following:
Go to Apple menu - System Preferences - Classic. Unlike Rosetta, Classic will show its status in its own window. Additionally if an Application's File Type in the Finder shows as Classic Application, then it will run in Classic. Some applications will allow you to force run themselves in Classic, by clicking on themselves once in the Finder, and selecting Get Info in the File menu, and checking 'Open in Classic Environment.'
Additional clues you are running Classic include (some of these may be modified by third party addon software:
You won't have rebooted, but your Apple menu is rainbow colored (on the upper left)
When you click on the Apple menu it will reveal a Chooser, and Control Panels instead of Startup and Shut Down.
The application will not only say Classic Application in the Finder File type, but also show a way of increasing its allocated memory in the Finder, as shown here:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61528 (links to webarchive version of the article)
Apple menu - System Preferences - Classic will show that Classic is runnning.
A Mac OS 9 logo will appear in the Dock when you launch a Classic application
Classic menu in the System Preferences can show if Mac OS 9 is running in the menubar with a Mac OS 9 logo.
If you have 10.5 or later on a PowerPC Mac, scroll up and read tip limitation #9.
14. How do I disable 64 bit computing, and use only 32 bit?
Some third party drivers will misbehave if System Preferences in Snow Leopard (10.6) is set for 64 bit. Similarly, some applications behave better if they are not running in 64 bit. To toggle these settings:
Click once on System Preferences in your Applications folder, and click on Get Info in the File menu. Check the checkbox Open in 32 bit mode, to disable 64 bit computing on System Preferences. You can do the same for any other application that has 64 bit and 32 bit capability built-in, by clicking once on the application, and selecting Get Info.
15. These Macs support 64 bit natively on Windows Boot Camp:
Just because your Mac doesn't have 64 bit Windows support through Boot Camp does not mean your Mac doesn't support 64 bit addressing. IBM G5s, Intel Core2Duo, Core i3, i5, i7 and Xeon processors all have 64 bit support built-in. Some Macs because of their age will not address more than 3 GB of RAM, or 2 GB of RAM, but still support 64 bit based applications that support their processor. Motorola G4 processors have limited 64 bit support with Altivec vector processing. G3 and older, and Intel CoreDuo, CoreSolo have no 64 bit support.
Timeline:
March 21, 2001 - Mac OS X introduced.
August 21, 2001 - Mac OS 9.2.1 released, new Macs on and after this date could not use Mac OS 9 retail installer discs.
July 2002 - Last prebundled Mac OS 9 installer CD, Macs that supported Mac OS 9 could only use the restore instructions to reinstall Mac OS 9.
January 7, 2003 - First Aluminum Powerbook G4s (did not support booting into Mac OS 9, but could use Classic) January 28, 2003 - First Firewire 800 Powermac G4s (did not support booting into Mac OS 9, but could use Classic). The earlier PowerMac G4s were available well into 2004 from Apple.
February 4, 2003 - First iMac G4s that couldn't boot Mac OS 9
May 6, 2003 - Superdrive eMacs couldn't boot Mac OS 9
October 22, 2003 - First iBook G4s, and all eMacs on or after this date couldn't boot Mac OS 9.
January 10, 2006 - iMacs went Intel, MacBook Pro introduced. Mac OS X 10.4 retail installer discs could not be used on Intel Macs. The first retail installer discs that could be used were Mac OS X 10.5 which came out in 2007. Only the pre bundled 10.4 installer discs could be used on Intel Macs when it came to 10.4.
February 28, 2006 - Mac Mini went Intel
May 16, 2006 - MacBook introduced. The Intel replacement for the iBook.
August 7, 2006 Mac Pro introduced. The Intel replacement for the PowerMac G5.
October 26, 2007 Mac OS X 10.5 introduced.
August 28, 2009 Mac OS X 10.6 introduced.
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July 20, 2011 Mac OS X 10.7 introduced. Rosetta discontinued. Mac Mini 5,x MacBook Air 4,x introduced. Neither could boot any version of 10.6 (link expands on solution for these and later Macs needing to run 10.6).
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August 8, 2011 iMac 12,1 EMC#2496 released. It and 13,1 and later models could not boot any version of 10.6.
October 22, 2011 MacBook Pro 8,1 EMC#2555; EMC# 2563 8,2;EMC#2564 8,3 (9,1 later any EMC) could not boot any version of 10.6.
For individual operating system tips of affected operating systems, see the tips in these links: 10.4, 10.5, 10.6,10.7, 10.8, 10.9, 10.10,10.11,10.12, 10.13, and 10.1410.6.8 and earlier users wanting to upgrade need to read this tip in its entirety.Systems discussed on this tip include: 10.5 Leopard, 10.6 Snow Leopard, 10.7 Lion, 10.8 Mountain Lion, 10.9 Mavericks, 10.10 Yosemite, 10.11 El Capitan, 10.12 Sierra, 10.13 High Sierra, 10.14 Mojave. Their code names will be referred to when the info apply to all versions of those systems
As of last writing of this tip, the only available upgrades to 10.6.6 are 10.6.7, 10.6.8, 10.7, and you can take 10.7 up to 10.7.5 Combo, Supplemental update, and 10.7.5 Security Update 2014-004 followed by 10.7.5 Bash update. The only available upgrades to 10.6.8 are 10.7, 10.8,and 10.11,10.7.5 users can go up to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra. (available again link added on 10/1/2018)or via 10.11 then upgrade to 10.13.10.8 users and higher can go to Mac OS 10.13 High Sierra (is still available as of 9/30/2018)10.11 users and higher can go to Mac OS 10.14 Mojave.
The only Snow Leopard compatible Mac that is compatible also with Mojave is the Mac Pro 5,1 with specific graphics cards. Look at the Mojave tip for more information. There are no Catalina (Mac OS 10.15) compatible Macs also compatible with Snow Leopard.
While you may need 10.7.5 to upgrade to Sierra, and 10.8 to High Sierra, a few Macs which shipped new with 10.6.1 or later, may be updated to 10.7, then 10.7.5 to get to Sierra, or 10.8 to High Sierra. This tip below discusses how to upgrade from 10.4.4 through 10.6.8 to 10.7 or later.
10.8 can be taken up to 10.8.5. 10.9, and 10.10 are not available anymore from the App Store unless you previously purchased it or your Mac shipped with it, however their free updates are still available.10.9 can be taken to 10.9.5, 10.10 to 10.10.5, and 10.11 to 10.11.6.
10.6.8 can be taken to 10.11, but not without following the guidelines below to assure compatibility.
If you find you are compatible only with those operating systems, you may be able to discuss with App Store or AppleCare to get those available for you. First though continue reading this tip as you may not be able to get past 10.6.8 without jumping through many hoops. Note if you update to 10.11, iPhoto and certain printer and scanner drivers may no longer be available.
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Rosetta, the application you never knew you had, is gone starting with Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, Yosemite, El Capitan, and Sierra all lack it).
It is not in any shape or form related to the language translation teaching tool by the same name.
It is the background program that lets Intel Macs run applications written for Mac OS X at a timewhen PowerPC Macs were the only thing around (before 2006). It is no longer there to enable their ability to run when you upgrade to the newer systems.It also means that programs with older installer programs may need updating as well, so verify the system requirements do not lackMac OS X 10.7 or later, or drag their installer program into the Applications folder to verify they aren't for PowerPC only.
You'll see later how to determine that with the System Profiler program.
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Go to Apple menu -> About This Mac to determine exactly what you have. Alternatively:See https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6413 to identify your Mac.See https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-2295 if migrating data from a PowerPC Mac to an Intel Mac.
G3 without USB is maxed at 10.2.8, except for the Powerbook G3 250 original Powerbook G3 (also known as Kanga), which could onlybe updated to Mac OS 9.1 (not to be confused with Mac OS X 10.9.1, which is 13 years newer).G3 without Firewire, but with USB are maxed at 10.3.9, except the Powerbook G3 Lombard (Bronze Keyboard) which may have CPU specific issues that limitits upgradeability at all.G3 or G4 of 800 Mhz or less with Firewire are maxed at 10.4.11.PowerPC Macs G4 867 Mhz (on single processor) and above (1 Ghz or higher included), and G5s can upgrade only to Mac OS X 10.5.8, and only support for syncing with iOS 5.x devices and earlier.Intel CoreSolo and Intel CoreDuo can upgrade only to Mac OS X 10.6.8 if they have at least 1 GB of RAM (768 MB is less). This does offer for anyone in the position compatibility with PowerPC applications that don't require drivers, and the latest Adobe Flash support as of May 14, 2014, and support for syncing with iOS 7 devices. For more on iOS support and Mac OS X syncing, see this tip:iTunes/Mac OS/iOS compatibility
Intel Core2Duo and XEON and later (Core i3, i5, i7 are all later models) may be able to go 10.4.4 to 10.6 to 10.6.8 to 10.9 to 10.9.2, or even up to 10.10 and 10.11 (skipping 10.5 to 10.5.8 altogether, and 10.7 to 10.8.5 altogether), as will later be explained. 10.6.8 may also be upgraded directly to 10.10. However, due to Rosetta's lack of existence in 10.7 and later, this type of upgrade, and any such upgrade that does not skip the aforementioned operating systems needs to be planned carefully. This tip explains what is needed to approach such upgrade pattern once it reaches 10.7 or later.
It does mean your data if it was in Appleworks, or an older version of Quicken mayneed to go through several conversion steps before you can upgrade to a newer Mac OS X.
It does mean that some newer Macs than July 19, 2011 will be faced with difficulty when approaching older applications. That date is later for some Mac models that did not receive a hardware revision until a later date than July 20, 2011, and that will also be explained later.
Some things you get with 10.7 and higher, specifically 10.7.3 and higher, are better compatibility with Java for websites from http://www.java.com/, Apple's iCloud , and iChat. I don't recommend everyone with 10.7 though to upgrade to 10.7.5, as some things may not work better until 10.8 or later.If your machine is limited to 10.7, stick with 10.7.3 unless you require other compatibility that is only on 10.7.4 or 10.7.5. Those with 10.6.8 or earlier running Java should read this tip:https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-5532
Adobe Flash compatibility with older Macs is discussed here, though if you can run at least 10.6.8, you can run the latest Flash:https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4781929
Now this doesn't mean you can't upgrade to 10.7 or later, if you have those older applications, but the workarounds aren't easy,as this tip on virtualizing 10.6 server on 10.7 or later demonstrates. Applications that aren't on this link as 10.7 or later compatible, may only work with the workaround. Alternatively a second hard drive with 10.6.8 or earlier, or second partition with 10.6.8or earlier if supported by the Mac will enable you to continue to use Rosetta. Mac models whose hardware changed (by Apple delivering a new set of hardware to stores) as of July 20, 2011 or later though have to deal with the first work around as their only choice.
The System Profiler application lets you quickly determine if you have PowerPC applications (click on image to enlarge):Note the triangle to the left of Software has to be pointed down for the Applications to become visible.Note the right hand side of the the Applications listing when selected says if you have PowerPC, Classic, Intel, or Universal.PowerPC & Classic indicate PowerPC only. Classic indicates it only runs on a PowerPC with Mac OS 9 running in the Classic environment
or booting into Mac OS 9.
Another way to tell applications are PowerPC only when you have already booted into 10.7 or later, requiring Rosetta, or a different operating system, is their icon in the Dock will have a Do not Enter sign like below:
This icon overlay only works for those applications that specifically have been tested to not work in the operating system being booted into, and clearly need a component of a different operating system. I've seen this happen as much to 10.10 applications that don't work in 10.9 while booted into 10.9, as 10.8 applications and 10.6 applications that don't work in 10.10 while booted into 10.10. The lack of this overlay though does not mean an application is necessarily compatible.
Before you upgrade to 10.6, be aware of this tip.Before you upgrade to 10.7 or later, also be aware of the info on this tip.
If everything is good, you can do the following upgrade path:
10.4.4 (on Apple Mac with Intel CPU) or later to 10.6 retail to 10.6.6 combo to 10.7 (paid) to 10.7.5 combo (free).
10.4.4 (on Apple Mac with Intel CPU) or later to 10.6 retail to 10.6.8 combo to 10.8 (paid) or 10.11 free.10.8 can be updated to 10.8.5 combo (free) as well.
An empty hard drive to 10.6 retail, then the above the 10.6.6 or 10.6.8 paths, or 10.7 USB Flash (no longer available) to 10.8 or 10.11 are also possibilities.
Note: The only 10.4 systems that can upgrade to 10.8 through 10.11 are on this tip Are there 10.4 systems that can upgrade to 10.11The only 10.5 systems that can upgrade to 10.8 through 10.11 are on this tip:Which 10.5 systems can upgrade to 10.11?The links provided should be followed to avoid any pitfalls you may get.
Lastly, Apple lists compatible printers for 10.6 and later:
Any not listed, will have to come from the vendor directly.
Apple provides updates to the printers on that link through these links by vendor:
HP, Ricoh, Canon, Epson, Brother,Lexmark, Samsung, and Fuji/Xerox
P.S. Users with PowerMac G3, G4, G5 reading this tip should also read the migration guide before migrating data from those machines to an Intel Mac.
* An erase of the hard drive during partitioning is usually only required when you have insufficient space. With sufficient space, partitioning can be done without erasing as described here:
under 'Create new partitions on a disk.' You should backup regardless.
10.6.8 has the following security updates: 10.6.8 2013 Security Update 004, 2013-005 Java update (note Java is not current until Mac OS X 10.7.3 from Java.com)and can be updated to 10.8 Mountain Lion through 10.11 El CapitanEl Capitan System (10.11) requirements for upgrade10.7.5 has this security update:10.7.5 Security Update 2014-004 followed by 10.7.5 Bash update,and can be updated to 10.12 Sierra.10.8 can be upgraded to High Sierra on certain Mac Models.
10.8.5 has this security update: 2015-006 Mountain Lion Security Update10.9.5 has this security update: 2015-008 Security update10.10.5 has this security update: 2016-001 Security update and may have others on Apple security updates - Apple Support in the future.
The only Macs that shipped with 10.6.8 or earlier than can run 10.14 Mojave are certain Mac Pros with specific graphics cards.
Lastly, for those with Microsoft Office versions that are too old, there are these alternatives:
